secondly, i expect joe biden to do a good job. he has been debating since the early 1900s. he has done 18 debates already -- presidential or vice-presidential debates. i think he is relatable. i don't take him lightly. i think that paul will be prepared. but joe bidenville to deliver big-time, based on the debate nabarack obama put on the board last wednesday. so he is going to be prepared. he will want to score in points. >> shannon: congresswoman, final response to you and your expect eggs with the debate this weerk in. >> i have debated paul ryan in the budget committee and news interviews like this one. he is certainly a good debater, will come well prepared. vice-president biden will as well. paul ryan has a tall order. is he going to spell out the details that he refused to spell out on this network because he said he didn't have time? he will have 90 minutes. he will have a chance to say why he proposed and mitt romney has embraced, turning medicare into a voucher system. mitt romney said that he thinks the medicare guarantee should end and we should turn it into a v